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Post by LegendE on Jan 24, 2009 9:21:55 GMT
Hi all admins,
One of my clan member name L.O.C.O could play on AVP server until yesterday. Now he said he is banned. So can I know why suddenly he is banned from AVP server?
Thanks, Legend.
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Post by richard on Jan 24, 2009 9:32:18 GMT
oh that retard files.filefront.com/demo0005dm+57/;13061056;/fileinfo.htmlbanned for 3 things 1. team shooting 2.harrasment of other players. 3.insults to others ( ie, mother insults ) (i have witness this myself ) at the end of the day SCUM like this is NOT allowed on he will love sluxx they team shoot all day regards Rich ps players need to represent themselves Legend. its a bad idea coming to stick up for players who are too afraid to come here and explain their actions to everyone themselves. ban will be permanent unless he comes and gives a full account of why he acts like one of the biggest idiots i have had the sad misfortune to come across in all my years of gaming etc
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Post by LegendE on Jan 24, 2009 10:04:08 GMT
I saw Demo and he killed only wolfsan coz BOTW started saying bad things about us again. Thats why he shot him. He is not shooting to every team mates. Only coz he is angry against him. He will not shoot unnessesary all of team member.
I have warned every of my clan members not to say anything until BOTW starts against us. What he did is reaction against what BOTW said (insult etc).
As BOTW set this up against him and one of their player demo him when he was angry.
Anyway I will bring him here. He has problem to login and leave comment on my forum also. Thats why I posted this topic
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Post by richard on Jan 24, 2009 10:26:53 GMT
I saw Demo and he killed only wolfsan coz BOTW started saying bad things about us again. Thats why he shot him. He is not shooting to every team mates. Only coz he is angry against him. He will not shoot unnessesary all of team member. I have warned every of my clan members not to say anything until BOTW starts against us. What he did is reaction against what BOTW said (insult etc). As BOTW set this up against him and one of their player demo him when he was angry. Anyway I will bring him here. He has problem to login and leave comment on my forum also. Thats why I posted this topic thats all beside the point. if players are prepared to break the server rules .Then they must be prepared to face the consquences of their actions. simple. as i say sooooo so often ,do player like LOCO actaully think that I and the others donate hard earned money just so the server can be over run with morons acting in this way clan leaders should NOT make themselves responsible for actions of a entire clan actions. until players learn to get along and show respect to one another then the banning will continue . there are no 2 ways about it. unless they are prepared to join the individual in a ban
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Post by loco on Jan 24, 2009 10:42:13 GMT
hi all admins! it is true what u say richard about that things. i dont deny and dont say that is not right! i want to say sorry about them. Teamkilling: yes i did some and because botw clan did it with me too, as i remember i did it only with them. When i heard that botw and pro have to be in peace, pro decided to live in this way, not saying bad about botw. But later they started and i told it to Legend too, then they shooted me when we were in the same clan, all the botw memebers who were there- and of course i was alone from the pro and shooted back.
It was not good from to say bad things like (mother and others..) i know, but they started prostituate and other things, meanwhile we thought that we were in peace.
I have a lots of good friends there and had (have the idea still) that will be peace between pro and botw. (and to be in enemy like in fights)
There was a fight among akos and fireball vs godzilla and wolfsan pro won, pro said no more problems? they didnt answer.
There were many moments when i was with wolfsan we could play great but when Godzilla appeared started to say stupid things about pro clan.
I defended the pro clan and in this way i said bad things (which were some hard i know).
Teamshooting were by unawares, and i did it when botw did it with me and with the pro clan.
As i can see Fireball is banned too, he did the the same things, but he did it because of the things i wrote it above.
IN all:we did that things cause botw started, we would like to play on avp and we allow what we have done, sorry for them.
Maybe nobady can talk or want to talk with that 2 Botw members (san and godzilla) and maybe noone will stop them saying things about other avp members. But i think admins have to look at not only pro or other clans, they should lok at botw as well, even they are better friends than us.
Loco and Fireball
By The Way: thx Legend to open this topic and everything.
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Post by LegendE on Jan 24, 2009 10:51:00 GMT
I am not standing beside my clan member and taking his side. And not even saying he did a right thing. Yes IF he breaks the rule then he deserve ban. You just banning him coz someone made his demo and showed to you. I just want you find out why he did that and what happend before he break the rule. There might be someone who already broke the rule and getting away with it. You just watching who end of that argument I am just saying find out who started it also.
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Post by fireballdday on Jan 24, 2009 15:40:50 GMT
hy all admins, iam Fireball (D-Day), today morning i realised that i could not play on avp and i am banned from there. i would like to know that, please write me ,were the same problems like loco"s had, which cause this situation. I made some teamkilling and i am sorry for that but i did it only against the botw members who started writing (noobs and prostituates..) things about us and they did teamkilling also. I had also lots of friends there and i and loco were always loyality to pro and to avp server also. At the end, some days ago, i had better relationship with Wolfsan than earlier but Godzilla started to telling us like things which i wrote.
Pro has no problem with Botw untill they start tease us, Furthermore we have some friends in Botw also,
Me and Loco say sorry the things what we did, what we did only because we were teased. Hope We Can get another chance and can continue playing there.
IF we would be banned in the future , it would be fair that wolfsan and godzilla would be banned also.
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Post by richard on Jan 24, 2009 15:45:17 GMT
I am not standing beside my clan member and taking his side. And not even saying he did a right thing. Yes IF he breaks the rule then he deserve ban. You just banning him coz someone made his demo and showed to you. I just want you find out why he did that and what happend before he break the rule. There might be someone who already broke the rule and getting away with it. You just watching who end of that argument I am just saying find out who started it also. no as i say i WITNESS myself this week what has been happening do try to keep up !!
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Post by richard on Jan 24, 2009 15:50:23 GMT
IF we would be banned in the future , it would be fair that wolfsan and godzilla would be banned also. so you are trying to get others banned as a form of revenge ? players like you as i mention are NOT welcome we only want players who are prepared to engage in sensible online gaming NOT as you are trying to do thankyou for admitting your intentions i know know i have banned players who desrve it regards
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Post by fireballdday on Jan 24, 2009 15:59:37 GMT
i am not trying. Just would like to know why always pro is the bad. we would like to get answer from you, what do u think about that not we started. Hope we will get answer.
we play everyday on avp server and we talked with a lots of people to play there cause a great server.
Teamkilling can happen by unaware when we through a grenade from far to the enemy and a teammate is close there and maybe dies but we didnt want to die him, it can happen that maybe it is a member from Botw and they will push F1. in this way nobady will know what was the truth.
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Post by loco on Jan 24, 2009 16:10:30 GMT
maybe we broke the rules but we would like make it better if it possible. maybe now botw is laughing at us but we dont care,
i swear we made bad things only against botw we wont continue say anything about them ot others, even they will say.
let u give us a last of last chance, let u see a week later or a month later, and if the smallest problem will be appeared (which wont) bann us. everyone can get a chance to show.
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Post by josephine on Jan 24, 2009 16:13:30 GMT
IF we would be banned in the future , it would be fair that wolfsan and godzilla would be banned also. so you are trying to get others banned as a form of revenge ? players like you as i mention are NOT welcome we only want players who are prepared to engage in sensible online gaming NOT as you are trying to do thankyou for admitting your intentions i know know i have banned players who desrve it regards Sorry for butting in, but I just wanted to say that I think he means that if he is banned for the things he did then the other two should be banned too because they have behaved badly too. Though since there's no proof of it they can't be banned, but you should keep an eye open. I myself have seen players from BOTW behaving badly so I wouldn't be at all surprised if some players got fed up and lashed out at them. I mean, if someone taunts me and even shoots me when we're on the same team then sooner or later I would freak out too and kick their a*se. We're only human after all. So if I were you, Richard, I would give L.O.C.O and Fireball another chance (they have appologized after all) and then I would urge those two to try and stay calm if anyone in BOTW starts behaving like pricks again and make a demo of it instead of starting saying bad things. But that's just my oppinion
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Post by richard on Jan 24, 2009 16:46:22 GMT
its been an ongoing thing Jose a quick recap of whats been happening. apart from chaos who was banned for cheating ( this is a perm ban btw ) there are at least 2 others botw players banned for racist remarks etc. i think both clans have a seperate agenda , and until they both can act like grown ups i will keep banning them . i simply do not have time for all this kids stuff. LOCO has at least admitted he is in the wrong. and understands . however fireball is still looking for revenge and claims his actions are somehow justified ! until fireball grows up the BAN will have remain . and that is me being fair. did i mention fireball that we dont pay hard earned money to see you acting like a ..... on our servers .. or do you think that is why we do pay ? please tell us why i bother
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Post by LegendE on Jan 24, 2009 17:08:22 GMT
Well not just Josephine but LO also know BOTW has started behaving badly. So does 2 of BOTW players already got ban. But they are on temp ban. So I would suggest give my clan members temp ban for few months as they have apologized. So does BOTW members are on temp ban. I am pretty sure they will not do again. As a clan leader I am kindly requesting you to give them temp ban. They have already realized that they have done wrong and they will not do again.
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Post by |'L0.| on Jan 24, 2009 17:10:56 GMT
I think monthly ban is pretty much justified... i've see you provoking all the time, i already said that "enemy is weaken" spam is annoying and it just leads to argue.... spaming until server ignores you and sometimes even at warmup at new game start when you win and on the other side is botw is pretty much a search for argue... you tend to act like kids there and wolfsan being him, doesn't need much to get provoked so one thing leads to another and then others that have nothing to do with it have to stand bs from both sides...
While wolfsan has his fair share in this to... but in any case, racist remarks and crap are not to be tolerated and i totally agree with Richard on "giving a month" to you to think about it...
And while at it, some of you need to develop a feeling of fair play- joining the stronger team and/or sitting in specs until the stronger team has a free slot will get you kicked quite fast, i'm done with asking you to even the teams when half of ppl disconnect cause one team is clearly stronger and already weaker team ends up playing with less then half less versus other team while you're busy with spaming "enemy is weaken" crap instead of evening the teams...
EDIT: as for the wolfsan, i don't know what's going on behind the curtain- you did mention to me that he pm's nasty crap on your forum to some of your members but that's out of our control, he's walking on thin ice as it is, i already warn him about that time with his poor jokes but from there on he keeps to holding back at least when i'm on, if not you can ofc feel free to notify Richard and he'll check the logs if it's ofc server and not your forum related, in any case that's different subject..
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Post by fireballdday on Jan 24, 2009 18:23:03 GMT
i would also say that i would like to apologize. i know i made trouble and broke the rules. this will never happen again.
as loco said, let us give a last chance to show u we would never do again.
we sorry and hope for the bests.
fireball
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Post by richard on Jan 24, 2009 21:58:45 GMT
ok
rather than a one month ban we have decided to remove the ban tomorrow (sunday)
on the condition that if i have to waste time with the same players for these same reasons again in the future .... then expect a lifetime ban.
keep the politics to one side when playing and get on with the game. and stop these petty squarrels.
and as LO says we want you guys to even the teams out rather than always joining the strongest team or having all one clan on one team ( carnage city call this clan stacking ..and it is forbidden ) i think we will adopt the same approach
Rich
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Post by wolfsan on Jan 25, 2009 2:26:11 GMT
-i see that pro clan say here a lot of stuff........i will not comment i will not start to analyse what is truth and what is lie because i think the TRUTH IS somewhere in the middle and as lo say" always a conflict generate another conflict...."FIRE BRING JUST FIRE and i believe that is no need for that .....WE JUST NEED TO straight a few things ...... -i the past somebody told me that if i have evidence just to present them to one ADMIN and i have don that . whatever IS THE DECISION OF THE ADMINS IN THIS MATTER I WILL NOT CONTEST HER I DONT HAVE NO RIGHTS !!! and as LO says we want you guys to even the teams out rather than always joining the strongest team or having all one clan on one team ( carnage city call this clan stacking ..and it is forbidden ) i think we will adopt the same approach Rich what RICHARD IS TELLING in this quote i think is the most important stuff of this discussion because this is happening an avp i dont wish to be bad again but i must to say this :1 legend start this he stay an spec waiting to join the best team ,if his team dont win for 2 or 3 games he go offline 2.he practice a humiliating game : i have seen him not playng for his team but just for his "kill trophy " ----> to kill a botw member with a syringe or knife or panzer.. In this way you legend have give a bad example to your members and they have start to practice that .at the beginning all of them was good duds......... More sad is the fact that botw members have start to behave in that way : they stay in one team fighting against pro just to avoid disgrace .... as you can see all in special you admins we have a problem and for this problem i see just 2 solutions : 1. we find a way to balance teams we stop to practice a clan fight we drop out humiliating killing .we find a way to com along ... 2. fokke to stop all clan activity an avp ,no recruting no belonging to a clan , no clans an avp then duds what it will be ??
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