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Post by HeRMe! on Oct 11, 2007 7:16:17 GMT
its a boy or a girl? anyway...
i haven't fully read all replys but it goes basically like this: You can see players tru walls.
It does not matter if you have a program or not, you can see players tru walls. You don't want to call it 100% cheating? ok, but if you think thats playing fair you are wrong I'm affraid.
Since we don't have control on other servers than avp ones you shall do whatever you want... but on avp its only the fair way...
ups still talking like admin ;D
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Post by HeRMe! on Oct 11, 2007 7:19:47 GMT
By the way, the way i see it you are having a special treatmnt because you have been (and you are) nice with avp and you always help on gettin things clean on server etc.. in other cases of wall bug we have ban in no time.
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Post by postmannl on Oct 11, 2007 10:25:22 GMT
Run you mouth all you want about owning people and some jerk doesnt like you and bla bla bla...
you are a cheater...plain and simple... you SUCKASS no debate. Well, that seems unfair to me as well. Yes i think using this "bug" is worth a ban but Jose has done enough for the RTCW community to be treated with respect. I wonder or this bug can be disabled somehow on serverside just liek the drop reload.
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Post by Malice on Oct 11, 2007 11:00:53 GMT
I wonder or this bug can be disabled somehow on serverside just liek the drop reload. no, it can not be. if it could i'm sure it would have been done.
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Post by josephine on Oct 11, 2007 13:30:22 GMT
By the way, the way i see it you are having a special treatmnt because you have been (and you are) nice with avp and you always help on gettin things clean on server etc.. in other cases of wall bug we have ban in no time. I don't think anyone should have special treatment. Not even me. The thing is, I know that Richard doesn't allow this on and therefore I don't use it there. I use it for perhaps a week or less. Then I asked Richard about it and he said that he didn't approve of it and since then I haven't used it on the server. And that's been like 4-5 months or so I think. I'm grateful that Richard didn't ban me immediately because I had no idea that he didn't allow it on And up until this mess started a few days ago (or has it been a week already) I actually had no idea that everyone (it seems so anyway) hates people using the bug and think it's almost the same as wh. I might have been stupid not to realize that or naive but there you go.
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Post by fairlady on Oct 11, 2007 13:35:40 GMT
;D ;D hihihihi herm we know you miss us a lot and i agree with you
even if she do a lot for avp she needs to know its not allowed to play onfair on the avp server..
i see that as a cheat too i remember my husband played a lot with that on one day he use it on my pc and didnt cnahge settings so i shoot to the walls when i saw someone walking behind it i didnt know it was a bug or a cheat but someone record me at that time and get banned out of my clan
so if you see people behind walls is a cheat for me like aimc etc etc so if i see someone who use it i will kick them
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Post by |'L0.| on Oct 11, 2007 14:38:34 GMT
that''s a little different Fair, what u're talking it's WH but what we're talking is something that is a bug in game. U don't see ppl thru walls by default, but a bug that anyone can exploit.
Game has many bugs, i bet that even in 1.41 there is still bug on beach map- as spot where some can jump and be invisible for few sec- lucky it's very hard to pull out and can't be done any other way then by knowing how. And i bet there is much more bugs around that ppl know for them but not share them.
The real issue is, how to react when u see some1 that is exploiting game bugs. I know that many things fall under category of exploits- trick jumping, wall peeping, fast drop reload....and while some are widely accepted (tj) others are not.
If someone exploits wallhack bug in map in a way to get to etc edge of map is mostly accepted as that is in map it self- like on dam map when person goes behind the hill in axis spawn and see all that are in spawn, as that is only in certain spots but peeping thru walls can be done thru whole map and that is a problem, as ppl are exploiting a bug that gives very unfair advantage as u can see when someone is coming for miles away if u do it on right spot, and it's the same as u would have wh. That's the issue about all.
But while i would kick without question when i see someone wh or aimboting, for this kinda bugs sometimes may only warn 1st and then if repeats kick/ban- but it depends of day and person. I'm not perfect i'm just human and if u catch me on a bad day and if i can i will ban them on spot, while other day one may get away with only warning, if it does not repeat tho.
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Post by josephine on Oct 11, 2007 15:12:01 GMT
If someone exploits wallhack bug in map in a way to get to etc edge of map is mostly accepted as that is in map it self- like on dam map when person goes behind the hill in axis spawn and see all that are in spawn, as that is only in certain spots but peeping thru walls can be done thru whole map and that is a problem, as ppl are exploiting a bug that gives very unfair advantage as u can see when someone is coming for miles away if u do it on right spot, and it's the same as u would have wh. That's the issue about all. Are you sure? As we all know I've tried that bug quite alot and I've actually only found like 3-4 places where you can use it. Atleast if you want to use it effectively. It's not as useful if you use it in a place where enemies usually are.
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Post by |'L0.| on Oct 11, 2007 15:40:15 GMT
yes i'm sure, i didn't test it but i know little smth bout bugs as that was my former job- testing maps for bugs- and this bug is only in due collision point as, either engine hasn't got fixed or collision isn't set to 100% - meaning u can etc go thru texture when u etc die your legs are in wall instead that game would bounce u away from wall. So game bug can be used thru whole map as long it's 1 side texture or there is not more walls between. Where ever is only surface wall can be used on any map, as they didn't place 2 side textures in as game counts polys and every square has 2 pollys and more polys u add more fps it take, and game is limited to amount polys that can use anyway...
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Post by josephine on Oct 11, 2007 16:18:03 GMT
Okay. I take your word for it
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Post by RefLex on Oct 20, 2007 17:11:45 GMT
btw ninja is gettin mad....he bans me everytime EVERyTIME when he sees me on server he connects on porpose only for banning me then he leaves server! he even put my name (reflex) in the not allowed name section its rediclious greetz reflex
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Post by flamingo on Oct 22, 2007 13:59:00 GMT
Yep i have been banned many times from ninjas servers too... always same reason aimbot wallhack or multihack, oh and camping (but he camps himself and thats not problem of course ;D)............. and usually only then when you play agenst him as reflex too i quess? But he just doesnt like you becouse you win him even thouhgt he has 0 ping
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Post by cannonfodder on Oct 31, 2007 10:13:37 GMT
why have i never been accused of cheating? really pisses me off. Just once. Anybody??? PLEASE? So, i was recently on AVP noobathon server and after another tiresome round of owning all for fun someone said 'hey nice aimbot cannon!" ;D ;D ;D Finally! Made my day! I just wanted to thank you all for your support during these difficult times.
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Post by Fox on Oct 31, 2007 10:30:28 GMT
welcome to the club mate ;D
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Post by |'L0.| on Oct 31, 2007 10:32:58 GMT
and u only need it 3 weeks i'm proud of u now u can freely play on a&f and when u see juan just kill him 2 and u will get spam with 100 lines how u hax- meanwhile say i said hi
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