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Post by richard on Mar 20, 2006 22:46:54 GMT
**warning**
do not use the drop reload speed hax. although on AvP the drop reload is disabled anyways ...however i view this as a hax file and will ban any player caught deploying it ( as what else have they searched for ? ) as on a noob drop reload server the standard 0.1 second reload is bad enough ( drop reload is a fault in programming) that clans have exploited unfortunately ruining the dynamics of game play , however we at AvP feel the game should be played as it was meant to be. but back to the speed drop hax this enables to reload in 0.04 of a second and sounds like a mosquito buzzing so far one player has been banned due to this as i mentioned he/she had gone to the trouble of finding this with the intention of getting an unfair advantage on others AKA cheating ,thus the ban.
funny thing is as i mentioned it is useless on my servers so why did the fool risk it ? when every 2 minutes a server msg says "no haxed files allowed" more fool them.
i was hoping that more servers would adopt the same approach as me and end the scourge of the drop noob and bring some skill back to the game , as with weapons like venom and sten are ment to be slow on reload.
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Post by -=[ K-O ]=- BUCIK on Mar 20, 2006 23:46:02 GMT
100% right richdrop reload is a bug in game its not real and i ts suks a lot all dm servers use that sh.it all clans use it to owns noobs pffff only and dont :-) i copy u post rich to my forum it the best anserw to question "why drop=reload is off ?? "
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Post by dingdong on Mar 22, 2006 7:20:39 GMT
I have it on automatic that my gun comes up after drop reload so if i'm running around with a syringe on avsp i can DR and have my gun automatically (but not reloaded i still have to hit r for that).
A cheat?
Is yes i'll try and prevent myself from doing it.
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Post by HeRMe! on Mar 22, 2006 8:51:44 GMT
well on avp i do use it but just because its like a TIC, u just like to do it.... also i dont know why ur so into it since on avp drop reload is not enabled also that hax thing u say, it can be enabled IN THE CONSOLE, so as the noobs say its part of the game edit: flash gordon approaching ;D ;D ;D ;D
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Post by richard on Mar 22, 2006 10:20:59 GMT
yep
what i am saying is those who have gone to the trouble to find a speed hex to speed up the drop reload from 0.1 second to 0.04 second are the fools i am clamping down on. as you say this is still useless on AvP However on other servers it will give them a superior edge over a standard drop reload noob ie make them a super drop noob. but my point is these people have gone to the trouble to find this new trick which will give them a unfair advantage over others in other words its a cheat. my thinking is although this cheat is uesless on my servers ,i still do not want this type of player as they will more than likely have other haxes as once a cheat always a cheat ,they dont care what we think of them , as pain-elite once said " yes i hack ,what you going to do about it"
well i for one are banning any fool caught use the speed hack "yupyup" as also been added as the servers logs pick it out it up quite well.
he was talking to lazyitek about it ,and demostrating it.
***update** the next s4ndmod and future s4ndmods are to be linked to a ban master list.
ie all those ip and even ip ranges that are added ( these bans are passed on the cheaters panel, once demos are forwarded for ban etc) then the game mod communicates with the updated list and auto bans all that may be on it, even if the server running the mod doesnt add the ip it still gets added. so in future a ban will be a global ban on all s4ndmod servers.
so it will be more like Punk Buster. servers like Kity Carnage which are standard mod will have access to the list of ip addresses and ip address range of dynamic range ,and then they can add them to their own firewall manually etc.
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Post by P@INL3SS on Mar 24, 2006 0:40:37 GMT
I also agree the drop-reloaders dont belong on "our" server, it's like an unlimited ammo-cheat, the noobs need it to win from people who aren't used to it. The reloading stuff is so much more fun, you can build your strategy on it, like trying to avoid enemy bullets and only start shooting back after he has fired half his clip. That gives the advantage for you to fire while he is reloading. You must be an experienced player to avoid bein hit all too many times though.... I tried it using a sten myself cause it can't fire too many bullets before it gets overheated. I shot a few bullets, let them fire back and then empty my clip, aiming at the head off course ! On close combat very hard, but on some distance very usefull. 2 out of 3 tries. Well C U all around ! Have fun, Pain.
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Post by dingdong on Mar 25, 2006 10:41:56 GMT
I dislike having to do the mad jumping around dance while frantically bashing r while some enemy player is emptying his clip into you. But needless to say i don't think i'm 'experienced' (maybe clever) enough to not empty my clip and wait for them to be half full. In mid-game lets just say all strategy goes out the window as i shoot everything i have on me in a players general head direction. ^^Good stuff (Ooh i like this-->
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Post by richard on Mar 25, 2006 12:37:49 GMT
YEP at end of day its all eqaul on servers such as AvP ,KO and any other servers wishing to follow suit. having the drop (+rotate) back to mp40/thompson after holding needle is not really here or there, as painless says it forces players to make bullets count and hopefully less stray bullets into team mates as some seem to . cheers All
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Post by dingdong on Mar 25, 2006 14:46:08 GMT
I must admit to the odd grumble at hitting p and then remembering that my gun won't reload that way, but at the end of the day i understand and respect your decision. However i don't think EES server will follow suit, server needs to be used for DM wars in which drop reload is a necessity or rather have just got to the stage where we are all so used to it we automatically use it and will throw tantrums if it's not there.
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Post by HeRMe! on Mar 25, 2006 16:25:12 GMT
well i tryed the KO server on dm with no reload, haha all players were always asking to enable it by the way, where are we going to use this ? can someone give examples? Also i would like to answer the last 3-4 post but dont understand a word so i just say i dont care the reload thing since i got used to have and dont have it, its not so hard a t the end... bye
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Post by dingdong on Mar 25, 2006 20:03:02 GMT
A new form of insult e.g herme is a stupid ? Yes i think so.
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Post by HeRMe! on Mar 25, 2006 20:20:19 GMT
what about dingding the ? ;D
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Post by -=[ K-O ]=- BUCIK on Mar 25, 2006 22:54:50 GMT
its good u stupis but when u took to girl about drop-reload it so no realistic when i want quake i go play in quake when i want real war i go play at rtcw pure game that i love u image guy in real war soldier run shot and dont reload only drop his gun hahahaha i
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Post by richard on Mar 25, 2006 23:19:09 GMT
yep infact if servers run with drop reload set to on and then did g_dropclips 1 (so if start game with 5 clips of 30 bullets ) as soon as they did a drop reload gun holds 150 +bullets in one clip ,,,nah not enough i hear players say make it 10 clips so = 300 bullets then they can fire until empty , this way they can take on the best drop reloaders in the game ,it would be a fair way on those type of servers. i did this on the medal of honor server (herme ,fox ) were you there !? where the thompson would fire and never stop unless you take finger off mouse etc so i was running around and never stopped firing for a whole match it was ridiculous really , mind you players could hear me coming all i could hear was my gun but joking aside that is about the story of it. i suppose love it or hate it it is here to stay. btw i like the mod on the new s4ndmod with the sniper war ,, now the sniper rifle fires like the paratrooper gun in the single player , with the scope and no recoil. well done s4ndmod team ;D oh this i suppose at hallowean or something dont ask silly questions
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Post by dingdong on Mar 26, 2006 9:34:59 GMT
oh this i suppose at hallowean or something dont ask silly questions Would we? Oh dear i just did.Anyway on the drop reload matter i admit i hadn't contemplated the fact about in a real war if you saw a soldier continually chucking his gun at his feet then running back and forth over it he would look fairly ridiculous. But then again every time you die in RL you don't get to go back to the beginning or last flag and try all over again..its a pity.
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Post by StarSKY on Mar 26, 2006 9:46:53 GMT
LOL... and so... why don't make heal starts from 500 instead of 100? Limits are part of the game. Liek rules (lovely smiles *__*)
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Post by richard on Mar 26, 2006 9:49:13 GMT
it would be nice if we could ding.
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